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Promoting, advancing and defending Intelligent Design via data, logic and Intelligent Reasoning and exposing the alleged theory of evolution as the nonsense it is. I also educate evotards about ID and the alleged theory of evolution one tard at a time and sometimes in groups

Saturday, October 20, 2012

Lenski's Long Term Evolutionary Experiment- Supporting My Claims

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Once again I find evolutionists who support my claims. With Lenski the claim I made that is supported is an experiment can be "let's do this and see what happens". Richie Hughes sed that ain't the way to do an experiment. Enter Lenski, et al. What did they do? Took a specific strain of E. coli- 12 identical populations- and tracked their gentic changes. IOW "let's do this and see what happens".

posted by Joe G @ 12:20 PM  

14 Comments:

  • At 3:56 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    JoeFail

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment

    "...The long-term evolution experiment was intended to provide experimental evidence for several of the central questions of evolutionary biology: how rates of evolution vary over time; the extent to which evolutionary changes are repeatable in separate populations with identical environments; and the relationship between evolution at the phenotypic and genomic levels.[3]

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  • At 4:00 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Exactly, "to see what happens"- as in let's put these identical populations of this strain of E. coli in different flasks and see what happens, and document it.

     

  • At 4:15 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Not at all. There are clear hypothetical objectives. Joe Gallien caught making things up again.

     

  • At 4:27 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Nope, just to see what happens and report. Everything in the wikipedia quote suports that.

    They had no idea citrate utilization would evolve. That was never part of any of their alleged hypotheses.

    Richie Hughes exposed as the ignorant asswipe he his, again.

     

  • At 4:29 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "...The long-term evolution experiment was intended to provide experimental evidence for several of the central questions of evolutionary biology: how rates of evolution vary over time; the extent to which evolutionary changes are repeatable in separate populations with identical environments; and the relationship between evolution at the phenotypic and genomic levels.[3] "

    NOT

    "...The long-term evolution experiment was intended to SEE WHAT HAPPENS"

    Dipshit.

     

  • At 4:38 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    how rates of evolution vary over time; the extent to which evolutionary changes are repeatable in separate populations with identical environments; and the relationship between evolution at the phenotypic and genomic levels" = SEE WHAT HAPPENS. moron.

    They had no idea what would happen. This experiment was just to gather the data. And gathering data is "SEEING WHAT HAPPENS" you ignorant drooler.

     

  • At 4:44 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Its clearly a hypothesis driven experiment Joe, as meticulously evidenced by that quote.

    If your point is that observation is part of all experiments then okay, that would be the 'testing' of 'hypothesis'.

    Your goalpost moving is painful. Is your point now experiments have their results recorded?

     

  • At 4:51 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    The hypothesis of "let's see what happens"- it is clearly a data gathering experiment.

    If your point is that observation is part of all experiments then okay, that would be the 'testing' of 'hypothesis'.

    Nope, not my point. Keep fishinbg, loser.

    Your goalpost moving is painful.

    What goalpost moving? Please be specific.

    Is your point now experiments have their results recorded?

    No. My point is some experiments are just for data gathering, which means "let's do this and see what happens", and Lenski experiment is an example.

    Obvioulsy you are ignorant of science and totally clueless about gathering data.

     

  • At 5:47 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    And only Joetard can write "let's do this and see what happens" instead of "let's do this and see if our hypothesis are confirmed", which is what actually happened.

     

  • At 6:31 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie,

    They had no idea what was going to happen. And you have no idea what a hypothesis is.

     

  • At 6:32 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Nice flail, JoeTard. Busted.

     

  • At 8:17 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    "Busted" by your ignorance and stupidity? How does that work, exactly?

     

  • At 9:11 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "let's do this and see what happens" - everything in your world is an experiment, eh Joe? Breakfast. Reading. Counting. Talking. Walking.

     

  • At 7:10 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    According to the people that matter, ie scientists, "doing something to see what happens (data collection)" is an experiment, period, end of story, except for the scientifically illiterate, like Richie.

     

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